Podcast Episode Description:

We all need a dose of optimism at times. I’d been yearning to see how I could make a difference and affect some much-needed change in the world. But the stakes feel so high and the problems feel impossibly complicated and far-reaching. Before this interview, I wanted to know: what can I do? And how can I stop feeling so powerless and hopeless? I found the answers to these questions and more inside Take Heart, Take Action: The Transformative Power of Small Acts, Groups, and Gardens by this week’s guest, Trathen Heckman.

You can listen to our conversation wherever you stream podcasts (Apple, Spotify, iHeart Radio)